Lymphatic Work for Puffy Pits, Endometriosis, Fibrocystic Breasts and Mastitis with Leah Levitan of LymphLoveClub

This week on The Less Stressed Life Podcast, we’re diving into lymphatic health, breast wellness, and reproductive care with Leah Levitan, a certified lymphatic therapist and founder of Lymph Love Club. Leah shares her personal journey with fibrocystic breasts, how lymphatic drainage plays a critical role in breast cancer prevention, and why so many women experience puffy armpits, breast congestion, and pelvic stagnation—plus what to do about it.

We break down the importance of lymph flow for hormone balance, detoxification, and immune support, covering topics like bras, deodorants, scar tissue, and endometriosis. Leah also shares practical at-home techniques to improve lymphatic function and overall well-being.

Catch Leah's other episode here: https://kite.link/263-lymph-love-leah-levitan

Check out the 5 Phase Framework Mini Course (Lymphatic Drainage For The Face)

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• How bras & deodorants impact lymphatic flow and breast health
• Why puffy armpits and fibrocystic breasts signal lymph stagnation
• The connection between pelvic congestion, endometriosis, and lymphatic drainage
• At-home self-care techniques for better circulation and detoxification
• How scar tissue & post-surgical healing affect lymphatic movement
• When to avoid lymphatic drainage (like during an active infection)

ABOUT GUEST:
Leah Levitan is a licensed massage therapist and certified lymphatic therapist specializing in lymphatic drainage, fascia release, and scar tissue work. With extensive training in myofascial release, somatic therapy, organ manipulation, and the Vodder Method of Manual Lymphatic Drainage, she helps individuals with chronic illness, post-surgical recovery, and overall wellness.

As the founder of Lymph Love Club, Leah is a Lymph Literacy Advocate dedicated to educating and empowering people worldwide to better understand and care for their lymphatic and nervous systems.

WHERE TO FIND:
Website: https://www.lymphloveclub.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lymphloveclub/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lymphloveclub

WHERE TO FIND CHRISTA:
Website: https://www.christabiegler.com/
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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Leah Levitan: if we're just imagining that our armpit is like a drain hole in the floor and we just want to squeegee that fluid towards the drain hole, that's usually going to get us where we're going. But we're also stimulating those lymph nodes. We're clearing them out, creating some space in there, getting circulation moving.

[00:00:18] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm your host, Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common that we're both in pursuit of a less stressed life. On this show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high performing health savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

[00:00:47] Christa Biegler, RD: One of my beliefs is that we always have options for getting the results we want. So let's see what's out there together.

[00:01:05] Christa Biegler, RD: Today on the Less Stressed Life, I welcome back Leah Leviton. She was here for episode 263, Lymph Love with Leah Levitan. And today we're talking, we're getting a little bit more granular, a little more specific. We're talking about kind of the reproductive system in general, reproductive health, breast health, et cetera, and lymph.

[00:01:25] Christa Biegler, RD: So Leah is a massage therapist and certified lymphatic therapist. She's the owner of Align Massage and Lymphatics in Austin, Texas. And she's founder of Lymph Love Club, where you may follow her online. She does lots of voiceovers over body parts, and they give me a great giggle. I think what's really unique about Leah is she's got a really fun approach to education, and we're all looking to be entertained, and so she's really fun to follow.

[00:01:51] Christa Biegler, RD: And I am so fortunate to have met her in person a few times, and today, I'm happy to have you back. 

[00:01:58] Leah Levitan: Thank you so much for having me happy to be here. 

[00:02:01] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Okay. So today We're trying to cover a couple of topics around lymph. So last time we got together. We did some basics We talked about lymph nodes versus lymph system Lymph drainage stagnation lymph stagnation and actually not very long ago within the last couple of months We did a republishing of Perry Nicholson's lymphatic drainage episode where he went over the big six.

[00:02:24] Christa Biegler, RD: So we've covered a lot of lymph basics and today we're getting into some more specifics. And so I always love to start with a story and instead of starting with your origin story, since we're talking a little bit about breast health. Do you want to jump in and talk to us about breast health and lymphatics and how something that's wonderful.

[00:02:42] Christa Biegler, RD: So I work with a lot of people with eczema because I have had eczema. Not because I wanted to work with that condition, but because it found me. And then people find you when you have this unique perspective or understanding and appreciation , for the particular thing. I always think it's really nice if the practitioner has some experience with a particular symptom and you shared with me before we hit record, you have some experience around breast health and fibrocystic breasts.

[00:03:08] Christa Biegler, RD: So if you would tell us your story about that, we'd love to hear it. 

[00:03:12] Leah Levitan: For sure. Happy to share the details. So my mom had breast cancer when I was younger, up and coming, maybe like 12 or 13. So that seed was planted very early that, we need to. Take care of this area. And my mom was doing a lot of holistic healing.

[00:03:31] Leah Levitan: So dry brushing and coffee enemas and juicing and all of lymphatic drainage and all this stuff. And this was back in the nineties. So that was pretty far out. 

[00:03:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Pretty great. Did you grow up in Austin or California? 

[00:03:44] Leah Levitan: Oh, Asheville, North Carolina. Actually, 

[00:03:46] Christa Biegler, RD: North Carolina. Your mom that was pretty great. My mom was into homeopathy growing up and I feel like that really created an impression on me. But that's what your mom was into. She's quite progressive. So 

[00:03:54] Leah Levitan: yeah, 

[00:03:55] Leah Levitan: totally. So she's in good health and she's doing great now. And that's really awesome. And that has led to more awareness around my breast tissue.

[00:04:03] Leah Levitan: So I think my history with the bra was really the, almost the typical one. You start to develop and you intuitively want to strap them down. You want them out of the way. And maybe a little bit embarrassing. Mine developed one sooner than the other. And so I was a little off sided, so I had to put tissue paper in one side of my bra to even it out, and so the restrictive bra, the sports bra, not really understanding the shoulder joint, just getting into.

[00:04:36] Leah Levitan: exercise in my early twenties, just like early adulthood. It was very much like, all right, what can I do? I'm going to do my big muscles and not really work on my functional movement. So I had a little bit of restriction in my shoulder girdle and I wasn't moving my shoulder as much as I needed to be.

[00:04:54] Leah Levitan: I also think that I was dealing with some iodine deficiency because I did have fibro cystic breast. So just dense, lumpy, bumpy kind of. cyclical breast tenderness stuff going on. And I've come to realize that so many of my clients are also dealing with that. Very relatable in that sense. And this was all before getting into the lymphatic system.

[00:05:16] Leah Levitan: Learning about the lymphatic system, learning about the drainage pathways of the breasts, and how the breast itself is an extension of the shoulder girdle. And because there's no pump for our lymphatic system, we really have to use muscle activation. our gravity, and things like that to get this fluid moving.

[00:05:35] Leah Levitan: And so a bra can change the way that we breathe. It can change the way that we move. And it can create a physical barrier for our lymphatic fluid. So anything with a hard U shaped underwire it's best to avoid hard structures in the bra. It's okay to have that support. I think.

[00:05:56] Leah Levitan: in regards to the statement of bras being, causing cancer. I feel like it's always up to so many other factors. And then also what is the relationship with the bra? If you have to wear a bra, that's fine. Cause I think a lot of people deal with breast pain as well. Yeah, I just have this like boob routine now and I didn't really realize that, the lymphatic system played such a huge role in clearing out the breast tissue.

[00:06:19] Leah Levitan: This is like our cancer fighting system as well. Just connecting those two things. And I forgot the cyst as well. My interaction with the vibration plate. 

[00:06:31] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh yeah, we'll get to that. So first I just want to understand a little bit about the timeline and I don't remember this from our conversation before, but when you started studying manual, lymphatic drainage, I'm sure it was a whole rabbit hole.

[00:06:43] Christa Biegler, RD: I think you were probably doing massage before you got into manual lymphatic drainage. I wonder if. I know when I was adding tools to my toolbox, it's because you're like, I feel like I need this to help clients next, right? And I wonder if your own experience with your breast health played into you pursuing some of that manual lymphatic drainage stuff.

[00:07:02] Christa Biegler, RD: And then, do you remember when you were you officially diagnosed with fibrocystic breasts, or did you self figure out that you had fibrocystic breasts? 

[00:07:09] Leah Levitan: I think the first time that I found out was the first time that I got a mammogram. I was super young and it was like, Oh, we need to be doing these a little bit early.

[00:07:19] Leah Levitan: We need to start screening earlier because of your mom's history. She ended up getting the genetic testing and tested negative. So it was environmental, but at the time for many years, we didn't actually know. And so there was a little history of cancer as well. So we wanted to be 

[00:07:35] Christa Biegler, RD: when did you start your mammogram?

[00:07:37] Leah Levitan: I think 35 is when they wanted me to start. 

[00:07:42] Leah Levitan: I've done a 

[00:07:42] Leah Levitan: few, but then I do other imaging now. 

[00:07:45] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay, 

[00:07:45] Christa Biegler, RD: so you found out about the fibrocystic breast for sure around 35. And what I wanted to drop in here was, I think this is a pretty valuable topic. I have a lot of passion around this topic because the current stats for cancer are 1 in 3.

[00:07:59] Christa Biegler, RD: But they are projected to be one and two, I forgot what year that is, it's not very far away, which is very significant. And in the United States, our most common cancer is breast cancer. We all know someone affected, and so I'd just like to drop I'm really interested in equipping the people who are listening to this podcast, my friends, my family, et cetera, and whatever we can do to support against this.

[00:08:20] Christa Biegler, RD: And you just brought up the lymph system is like this cancer prevention system. You started getting Mammograms around 35, you find out you have fibrocystic breasts. And this is why I like to just put timeline on things. And this is before maybe you're doing manual lymphatic drainage.

[00:08:33] Christa Biegler, RD: And then what happened? What's the progression of the fibrocystic breast situation for you? Did this answer any questions for you? Or you're like, didn't know that was coming. 

[00:08:41] Leah Levitan: I think it just led to a bunch of other questions because I wasn't really sure what to do about it.

[00:08:46] Leah Levitan: Nobody really gave me any advice about what to do about it in regards to just dropping it on me and being like, cool, you have this and that's it. 

[00:08:56] Christa Biegler, RD: And let's qualify, what's the significance? When they tell you have fibrotic breasts. What did you learn after the fact? And so you got no context and you make such a good point.

[00:09:04] Christa Biegler, RD: I think that a diagnosis, I think you weren't necessarily pursuing a diagnosis, you were pursuing clearance of breast cancer or prevention, right? But very often when we're doctoring, we're looking for a diagnosis. And very often that diagnosis actually just leads to more questions, 

[00:09:18] Christa Biegler, RD: right? . 

[00:09:19] Christa Biegler, RD: Just underlining That's right.

[00:09:20] Christa Biegler, RD: That in your story, , carry on. Tell us more like what happened next? 

[00:09:24] Leah Levitan: Okay, so I feel like I've made a lot of progress, and that has come from the lymphatic rabbit hole. And then looking at the fluid dynamics in the body, how does fluid flow through the breast? If you're imagining just mid just you're locking eyes.

[00:09:44] Leah Levitan: With a nipple, it's going to be draining out from every direction, almost like a star. So the medial portion of the breast will drain towards the sternum and the lateral portion will drain towards the armpits. So it just makes the fibrocystic structures within the breast make it a little bit harder for that fluid to flow through the squishy pipes.

[00:10:04] Leah Levitan: So looking at that and being like, okay, I need to move my shoulder more. change the type of bra that I'm wearing, make sure that I'm able to sweat because we do have like special lymph nodes in the armpit and there's special sweat glands in there. So we want them to be able to do their job and sweat freely.

[00:10:22] Leah Levitan: And then also to mobilize the breast tissue, it just feels like sometimes they exist as this extension of our chest and we put them away and they don't get a whole lot of action. And so because they're designed to move and they're designed to swing, they move up and down and side to side and forwards and backwards.

[00:10:42] Leah Levitan: And so when we're walking, the most nutritional movement that you could possibly do for your body. It would, I like to go on a brawless walk every day and that allows them to move in all the different directions that they're able to. And and I do prioritize a little bit of shoulder stuff as well. And then as well as just like moving that fluid with my hands.

[00:11:03] Leah Levitan: With either whether it's through massage or sometimes I'll usually use a Gua Sha stone. I just mix it up with my self care, but there's a lot of different ways to move the fluid in our breasts and chest. 

[00:11:16] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. I have some questions about some of the things you put on the list. So you brought up moving the shoulder, changing the type of bra.

[00:11:21] Christa Biegler, RD: So I want to talk about whether you're speaking specifically to removing a hard underwire. Or across the back versus different. So I have these T back and I'm coming up with these questions because of innate. experience, right? With wearing bras. And as a side, in case you have any feelings, I don't have strong feelings.

[00:11:39] Christa Biegler, RD: I know there's information out there about this. I went mostly bra free a while back. Not because I believe that bras caused breast cancer, but when someone about my age was diagnosed with breast cancer that I was close to, I was like, I'm this, I'm just not doing this. But what was interesting was it took, it was like they needed some exercise to perk back up.

[00:12:02] Christa Biegler, RD: And if I would wear a bra, they'd be like sad and floppy for a couple of days, right? And so I just think it's interesting. As well, but what I will say is sometimes I feel like that was even more significant if I was like, in a cross back to back, which is why I'm asking when you say change your type of bra, are we talking about underwire or like the way the straps are?

[00:12:20] Leah Levitan: Oh, that's a good question. There's just so many different types of bras out there, right? So I think we want to avoid like high compression, unless it's a compression bra that's actually designed for the lymphatic system. And we would call that a compression garment. And there's lots of companies out there that make compression garments.

[00:12:37] Leah Levitan: For women that have already had lymph nodes removed from their body. And now that they have an increased risk of developing a condition known as lymphedema. Those bras are actually really great. I'm wearing one right now. And so it creates some structure and support. But I know that it's not constricting.

[00:12:55] Leah Levitan: it's creating like an even surface for the lymph to flow more freely. There's no like bands or constrictive, like elastic. So it can be wire. It can be elastic. I feel like there's just so many different kinds of bras. It's hard to tell. If you feel like when you take your bra off at the end of the day, that you're just maybe that's a good indication that bra is like not, maybe not the most comfortable or the most limp friendly.

[00:13:22] Leah Levitan: want to relieve pain. We want to, a lot of people have neck and shoulder issues when when it comes to like larger breasts or dense breasts. And so it is a lot of trial and error, but If we can try to find things that are a little bit looser and don't make us feel like we just want to rip them off at the end of the day, that's usually great.

[00:13:41] Christa Biegler, RD: I agree. Lots of trial and error. That'll be another podcast for another day. Experience is going bra free. All of the tips and tricks that I've arrived at. Okay, let's talk about changing deodorants. And so maybe these are simple, when, I was just going from your list, which is like you changed the type of bra, so I don't know if you just removed underwires, and then when you're changing deodorant, and sometimes, and I'll use the kind of a personal story, I took someone to dinner the other day, And I worked with her many years ago and I must have gifted her a deodorant years ago and she's Oh, I'm still using that one, but it doesn't really work anymore.

[00:14:13] Christa Biegler, RD: I was like, I've used like six different deodorants since then. Cause I'm always, like to trial and error to an extent. And so I would guess you're talking about an antiperspirant or a aluminum to a natural deodorant. And if you have any other comments about that, I just wanted to qualify it because people might say what does she mean by change deodorant?

[00:14:31] Leah Levitan: Yes. Yeah. We don't want to like prevent sweating and we want to avoid any environmental toxins or at least limit our exposure because it is something that we use a lot of, right? We might apply it once, maybe multiple times a day, every single day for our entire life. So it's interesting, to just look at the relationship with that.

[00:14:52] Leah Levitan: For me, I think I just had to do a little bit of work around the need to smell good all the time. 

[00:15:01] Christa Biegler, RD: And I have some total feedback. I have some tips for people if they want around this because I feel like I identify as a sweaty girl. And I have lots of feelings about that. This is another great tiny podcast episode.

[00:15:14] Christa Biegler, RD: But if my Body odor stinks. First of all, it's partially my like, how much coffee I'm drinking typically, or some of the intake contributing to that. And it's really toxic garbage that wants to get out. What causes stink is like, bacteria. And so there are a few things I do. If my body odor stinks, I get in the sauna.

[00:15:33] Christa Biegler, RD: I like, sweat that. trash out and it's like immediately better because I'm massively reducing toxins. And then if I need to change the bacteria, and actually I had a friend, a practitioner friend, text me recently about a young child, her, one of her kids having smelly body odor. And I was like, maybe she just needs soap in her armpits because it's bacteria.

[00:15:53] Christa Biegler, RD: And We just don't think about it. 

[00:15:54] Leah Levitan: I exfoliate. Yeah. I exfoliate my armpits. 

[00:15:56] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. There you go. I forgot about that one. Thank you so much for bringing that up. Exfoliation. What do we call it? There's like a fancy name. Armpit detox. That's like the trendy thing online. Armpit detox with charcoal and I don't know if 

[00:16:07] Leah Levitan: you do 

[00:16:07] Leah Levitan: Bentonite clay.

[00:16:08] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[00:16:08] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Bentonite clay. There you go. Yeah. And also. 

[00:16:10] Leah Levitan: I see people do lemon 

[00:16:11] Leah Levitan: juice. 

[00:16:12] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh yeah, I've never done that. That sounds real painful if you have armpit congestion, which we might talk about here. This would be a good segue into armpit congestion after we finish talking about cysts. I like internal chlorophyll.

[00:16:24] Christa Biegler, RD: That works nicely. And then I was just on a trip, and I would say different environments. I don't live in this environment where it's crazy hot. You do. You live in a place that for me is crazy hot. But Sometimes like on trip I like arrange my clothes, I feel like I've arranged my clothing around, not petting, I, there's just materials I don't like in my armpits whatsoever and there's a deodorant I just personally really like right now that's like a silver paste and that makes sense because that and I don't use it, it's like a very, you use it once every, a couple times a week and it just keeps that bacteria bay.

[00:16:59] Christa Biegler, RD: It's called N U D. It's out of the UK so it's super annoying to order but the time the bottle lasts for like ever. It lasts for literally forever and so I actually just it's a really good like travel size tiny bottle. So anyway side notes. 

[00:17:13] Leah Levitan: There's so many 

[00:17:13] Leah Levitan: great ways to 

[00:17:15] Christa Biegler, RD: I bring 

[00:17:15] Christa Biegler, RD: it up because sometimes it's that's a hard pass for a lot of people.

[00:17:19] Christa Biegler, RD: And it's actually, what if there was options for everything? So I just want to bring up those options. 

[00:17:24] Leah Levitan: Options. 

[00:17:25] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. So let's talk about when this cysts burst that you told me about before we hit the record button. 

[00:17:31] Leah Levitan: Oh yeah. I got a vibration plate for on a, like a black Friday sale last year.

[00:17:38] Leah Levitan: And I thought, I'm going to use it every single day for 15 minutes at a high setting because I got this and I don't need to follow my own advice of slowly introducing things to the body. So I climbed aboard and I used it for a few days and I remember waking up day two and it was like, Oh, my, my chest is like just a little bit sore and I felt a little bit sore.

[00:18:00] Leah Levitan: And achy and then the, but I did it again that day because I don't know why I was in a self care spiral of like more is better, just shake it out. I must just have a little detox reaction. So I did it again for the third day and then that's when I realized okay. I don't need to do this anymore because it feels like something's off and it turned out that I did rupture a cyst in my breast from 

[00:18:26] Leah Levitan: not wearing 

[00:18:26] Leah Levitan: a bra.

[00:18:27] Leah Levitan: It actually like almost doubled in size and got really warm and scary. Then it got That just led to, yes, going to the doctor, getting follow up imaging, and things like that, and then just a lot of anxiety during that time of like waiting and uncertainty. 

[00:18:44] Christa Biegler, RD: What does it 

[00:18:44] Christa Biegler, RD: look like on imaging if the cyst ruptures?

[00:18:47] Christa Biegler, RD: Can they really tell? 

[00:18:48] Leah Levitan: I basically waited a little bit for that to go down to where I was back to like my baseline before getting that imaging. My sister is a nurse. And so she was just like, if you go in right now and ask for imaging right now, it's going to lead you down a path of All these diagnostic things that they want to do.

[00:19:10] Leah Levitan: I chose to just wait for that infection to clear with antibiotics, and and just like a lot of self care, and then I was working on my gut and things like that. 

[00:19:20] Christa Biegler, RD: Thanks for 

[00:19:20] Christa Biegler, RD: bringing that up because I think that when there's obvious signs of infection, your breasts had doubled in size, it was warm, it was painful to touch, etc.

[00:19:28] Christa Biegler, RD: I always say, like, when you have a crazy infection, you need to put out that fire. There's really just no exception. You could get very sick. When you don't put that down, but this is like when antibiotics have a use, like the biggest use when there's like a infection that's potentially more dangerous not to treat than to treat, I would say it's like the pros outweigh the cons, in that scenario.

[00:19:49] Christa Biegler, RD: And I experience that with clients like every once in a while. And so I just welcome the use of the tools at our disposal at the right times for those. And so I just wanted to. Underline that part for, with you, so you did some imaging so they didn't really catch much and they were like, Hey, this is probably this.

[00:20:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Is that what I'm understanding? 

[00:20:09] Leah Levitan: Yeah, that's what it was and that my imaging was clear. So it was helpful. 

[00:20:14] Christa Biegler, RD: How long? Oh, that was just this year. That was a fun little experience for you. Last year, 

[00:20:17] Leah Levitan: yeah, November. Oh yeah. Yeah, November. 

[00:20:20] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Okay. So now when I'm watching you educate about vibration plates.

[00:20:25] Christa Biegler, RD: I'll think of your ruptured cysts on your desk. Yeah, I'll be thinking about 

[00:20:29] Christa Biegler, RD: it. 

[00:20:29] Leah Levitan: Just, and then that sort of led to people asking is it possible that you could rupture like an ovarian cyst or anything like that? And I think, Yes, vibration plates are just so incredibly powerful, so they just need to be respected.

[00:20:43] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, I've walked through with clients, I don't remember the cause, I don't really have any modalities that would necessarily be doing this, but where they thought that they had a cyst rupture just because of the pain, I don't remember what came of it. Nothing quite like yours, nothing, it's like the.

[00:20:57] Christa Biegler, RD: Stuff that is etched in your brain, so it's not a real Vimed memory, but I know that it is a very painful, unfortunately painful thing. You brought up Iodine and We've had Dr. David Brownstein on the podcast, which is an honor because he doesn't really accept that many podcasts invites I don't know if you know who he is.

[00:21:15] Christa Biegler, RD: He's like the iodine guy In our current health generation, I feel that's alive. And so I wanted to ask you about if you use iodine and how you use it now on your fibrocystic breasts journey, and if that's a debated topic, or do you ever get pushback around that? 

[00:21:30] Leah Levitan: Oh, good question. I do.

[00:21:32] Leah Levitan: So after the cyst sitch I created another level of. Self care for my 

[00:21:38] Leah Levitan: breasts. 

[00:21:39] Christa Biegler, RD: Like I'm actually going to crank it up a 

[00:21:40] Christa Biegler, RD: notch. 

[00:21:41] Leah Levitan: We're going to turn it up a notch. So I started using a red light unit on my breast for about 20 minutes a day. And then I would follow that with breast massage using an oil that had just like some herbs and a little bit of iodine.

[00:21:59] Leah Levitan: And it's been really helpful. 

[00:22:01] Christa Biegler, RD: How do you know it's been helpful? 

[00:22:03] Leah Levitan: Because of the texture and. Just the tissue density is changing and softening and so I can tell that tissue is clearing and that inflammation is not as present because I'm not getting that cyclical breast tenderness as much anymore.

[00:22:18] Leah Levitan: And yeah, my girls just feel softer. 

[00:22:20] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. And you are a tissue expert. You've touched a lot of tissue. And so I would trust you. Completely, to say I can tell my tissue is changing. I think we all have different levels of awareness, which is why I asked you about that. And, I just wanted you to highlight that a little bit because I think topical use of iodine, iodine's been in the toolbox for decades, at least.

[00:22:40] Christa Biegler, RD: But it's 

[00:22:40] Leah Levitan: a lot of 

[00:22:41] Leah Levitan: people are deficient as well. 

[00:22:42] Leah Levitan: It's pretty common. 

[00:22:43] Christa Biegler, RD: It would be pretty hard to be adequate in iodine because we don't really have, unless you're bathing in the ocean or eating like kelp, like the jet the food sources for iodine are very low. And so then you might say what about salt?

[00:22:55] Christa Biegler, RD: I've got like a handout that shows like how little. We have and as you, I am just camp. I have had like dramatic life improvement with iodine And so but it's one of those topics that it's I have to educate you first because there's some details around it but I would say that it can be a point of confusion for a lot of people because they aren't fully educated about it. I can't remember every detail, there was, I don't know if it was the 80s, 90s, I feel like it was the 80s, 90s, we quit using it because there was like a scare. And I I think I'm probably dumbing this down a little bit, but it reminds me of like when we were afraid to eat whole eggs, it's we need to go back and strip away.

[00:23:32] Christa Biegler, RD: Some of the crap around that. Cause what happens is this stuff sticks in our brains. And you feel like people forgot about that stuff. But they don't. And Anyway, there's some literature on either side. But I'm really pro camp iodine. But I do think it just requires. education, understanding and then see what happens.

[00:23:48] Christa Biegler, RD: See, do a little trial and error. Do some intentional experimentation, and I bring this up because like your story is oh, let me try some experimental implementation and I'll give it this amount of time and I'll see what happens. And that's all good too. So there's a lot more we could say about that, but check out David Brownstein's episode or some of his books.

[00:24:05] Christa Biegler, RD: His books are pretty dramatic. 

[00:24:07] Leah Levitan: And I do 

[00:24:07] Leah Levitan: Supplement, I do like a. Almost like a sea algae type of supplement. Chondrus Crispus, I think is what it's called. 

[00:24:16] Christa Biegler, RD: I don't know that. I don't know that. I was wondering if you were going 

[00:24:20] Christa Biegler, RD: to say 

[00:24:21] Leah Levitan: this other Chondrus Crispus? I feel like It's a weird, it's a weird spelling.

[00:24:24] Leah Levitan: But yeah, there's like a sea algae combination that I use. It's just a food based supplement. Oh good quality. 

[00:24:31] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, and I think I'll just throw this in. We're not just deficient because we're not intaking much. Part of the reason we're deficient is because We have things in our environment that are more prevalent now that are competing with iodine receptor sites, namely chlorine, other halogens like chlorine and bromine.

[00:24:52] Christa Biegler, RD: You're probably familiar with chlorine and the fact that like people bathe in chlorine, actually it was a huge part of my skin story. But also bromine is in a lot of stuff but it's not. You would never know it. Once upon a time I worked with a some kind of engineer that their company put bromine in.

[00:25:09] Christa Biegler, RD: He's it's in everything. It's like in everything. But it's also one of the big topics in one of Brownstein's books is when they started putting it in flour as a dough conditioner. And so I just think it's part of the conversation with tolerance of grains in general, in my opinion. I don't think it's all about gluten.

[00:25:27] Christa Biegler, RD: I think it's about. other stuff, like the processing that happens after the fact also. So just some total rabbit holes that we didn't totally need to get into. So you had this fibroid burst last year. You took care of the infection and you amped up the boob routine. You've added those other things, anything else to share about that?

[00:25:46] Christa Biegler, RD: Or is there anything else that you want to mention about breast health or are there breast conditions women come to you for? 

[00:25:55] Leah Levitan: Yes. So cyclical breast tenderness a lot of times. After breast cancer. So I see a lot of breast cancer survivors. Maybe they've had lymph nodes removed, or they've had surgery and or radiation, chemotherapy, things like that.

[00:26:11] Leah Levitan: And so they're wanting to learn how to take care of their lymphatic system. They didn't feel like they got a whole lot of information. Not a lot of breast cancer patients are actually being referred out for physical therapy after cancer treatment, which I feel like is so important. And so that is the largest majority of the breast stuff is working with scar tissue or maybe post surgical they're coming in with that acute situation where we're trying to lower inflammation, reduce the development of scar tissue, clear out some of that swelling after surgery.

[00:26:43] Leah Levitan: And just help their body, repair as quickly as possible. 

[00:26:47] Christa Biegler, RD: And I'll just point out, we also had your colleague Jean Lamantia talking about lymphedema, lipidemia, which I think we got into this territory a little bit, episode 381 in about mid December, 2024, if people want a little bit more around some of those specifics.

[00:27:02] Christa Biegler, RD: Post cancer stuff, we definitely talked about post cancer stuff because she had cancer. And I think some of that stuff as well. Okay moving from the armpits a little bit not too far at all, let's talk about puffy armpits, which is a, one of those things that maybe doesn't have a diagnosis, but, for example, I couldn't believe the amount of people that used to be in my Instagram inbox, and I'm going to do an episode on this.

[00:27:26] Christa Biegler, RD: Asking me about HS or I can't even say the diagnosis, hydrodentis superativa, I think is, I hope I got the mouthful out. But that might be a diagnosis related to puffy pits. But you said it's a kind of a hot topic. So let's talk about puffy pits. 

[00:27:41] Leah Levitan: Yeah I feel like the basis for the puffy pit, what's the requirement is that 

[00:27:47] Leah Levitan: there isn't like a little cave in the armpit. There's something that actually protrudes from the armpit. But, this area is a common place for congestion. And it's, sometimes it's the anatomy of the person. It has less to do with the fluid dynamics in the shoulder and the breasts. But, it can also be hormonal and, Then related to those environmental things that we talked about, right?

[00:28:13] Leah Levitan: The bra, the deodorant, the lack of mobility in the shoulder. Sometimes it can be scar tissue related, maybe from a breast reduction. Sometimes women get a little bit congested just because of that scar tissue slowing down the lymphatic flow. Most of those clients are beyond happy that they got the reduction, by the way, they, their quality of life had gone up.

[00:28:33] Leah Levitan: So don't, not to deter anyone from breast reduction surgery. That congestion is super mild, but it's just one of those things where it can happen. It is an area of the body that's prone to congestion just because we're doing a lot of driving and we're doing a lot of computering. And so our arms are down at our side all day.

[00:28:53] Leah Levitan: And it can be important to get in there, but, 

[00:28:57] Leah Levitan: yeah. 

[00:28:57] Christa Biegler, RD: That's such a good point, a good reminder, right? It's yeah, we think about movement, but I think when we think about movement, I usually think about moving my entire body or my legs, and so it's just good to think, What if I'm just sitting here and moving my arm?

[00:29:10] Leah Levitan: Working my armpits. You're like, exercising my armpits. 

[00:29:16] Christa Biegler, RD: I hope we use this clip online. It's like the chicken dance. Yes. I invite you to come up with a chicken dance for puffy armpits. 

[00:29:26] Leah Levitan: Okay, I could actually 

[00:29:27] Leah Levitan: wear this sweater. 

[00:29:28] Christa Biegler, RD: I literally feel like that sweater is perfect for this new idea. I can't wait to see that one.

[00:29:34] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. We're missing anything on puffy pits? Yeah, puffy pits. I forgot about mastitis going back a step to breast health. 

[00:29:39] Leah Levitan: Yes. I feel like it's so common for people to, for breastfeeding moms to develop a little bit of congestion in the armpits because sometimes the ducks, the milk ducks go all the way up.

[00:29:49] Leah Levitan: Have you 

[00:29:49] Leah Levitan: seen that video where the lady's squirting milk out of her armpit? 

[00:29:53] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh my gosh, no. And I don't need to see that video, but thank you. Okay. 

[00:29:57] Leah Levitan: You're welcome. When I saw that, it blew my mind. And I remember thinking like, Oh okay, this is really contributing to their BO. And the congestion that they're having, it just all made sense to me.

[00:30:08] Leah Levitan: I was like, okay. So it can be something where you can support because the lymph nodes can become enlarged and inflamed depending on what is going on. And so I do recommend that's when you would get in there and do some. Some work on your armpit with your hands to pump those axillary clusters.

[00:30:32] Leah Levitan: We do the big six, but then we got to add on a little bit of extra. Some self care sprinkles are required to make the big six something that is a little bit more customized for what you have going on in your body to linger in those areas that are affected. 

[00:30:47] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay this brings up a couple of questions.

[00:30:51] Christa Biegler, RD: Let me start with this one. Okay. You brought up that. I think you said you do a little Gua Sha in your armpits for your breast health. And I was thinking about what is appropriate and can we hurt ourselves or not? I don't feel like you can ever hurt yourself moving your.

[00:31:05] Christa Biegler, RD: Of course you can hurt yourself moving your body, but doing the chicken dance for your armpits. I don't feel like you're gonna hurt yourself for with your body my question is With the big six the conversation is like opening up the drain in the clavicle first And so if you do that, can you do gua sha?

[00:31:21] Christa Biegler, RD: Can you do it wrong? Can you go up or down incorrectly? Shouldn't you be going toward the large part of the body? And if you're going toward the heart or the center can you do it wrong? Is there any, issues that can, people can run into if they want to do some manual stimulation with their hand or with gua sha, or with a stone.

[00:31:37] Christa Biegler, RD: That's what I mean when I say gua sha. We've done episodes on that, but it's like a, it's just a hard surface adding a little more, I don't know, pressure against it. 

[00:31:44] Leah Levitan: Yeah, just like 

[00:31:45] Leah Levitan: getting the tissue red and increasing that circulation. Yeah. Gua Sha being like a fascial treatment versus a lymphatic treatment, you use a little bit more pressure.

[00:31:55] Leah Levitan: And I think that as long as we're not causing pain, that we're doing it right in that sense, I would try to stick with going with the flow. If you're brushing your bicep, you want to come down towards the armpit. If you're brushing along the bra line, you want to come up. Up towards the bra or up towards the armpit and the lateral breast, you want to work sideways.

[00:32:19] Leah Levitan: So if we're just imagining that our armpit is like a drain hole in the floor and we just want to squeegee that fluid towards the drain hole, that's usually going to get us where we're going. But we're also stimulating those lymph nodes. We're clearing them out, creating some space in there, getting circulation moving.

[00:32:39] Leah Levitan: So I feel, I find that I will often be mushing and squishing in all directions. But with just like a general, there's a general one directional move. 

[00:32:51] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, and I would guess that you witness a fair bit of die off reactions, and that could look like a lot of things. But for me, when I started doing, I don't know if it was facial gua sha or the big six, but I definitely got a zit like right here or somewhere.

[00:33:08] Christa Biegler, RD: It's oh, moving some stuff. And I think, to me, it didn't cause any alarm. It was just like, oh, I have crap. And this is not a shocker to me. I definitely have lymphatic crap I have all kinds of it. 

[00:33:19] Leah Levitan: We all do. Yeah. We all do. It's I'm not. That's it's job. I'm not blessed with my detoxification systems.

[00:33:24] Christa Biegler, RD: And my other question was really, if someone was feeling like they were having mastitis coming on, would you discourage them from doing any manual drainage? At what point would you discourage it is my question, cause like in a way. In my brain, it should make sense that it would be helpful, but then also it could be harmful if you have a massive infection.

[00:33:46] Christa Biegler, RD: What are your thoughts on that? 

[00:33:46] Leah Levitan: Yes, you're exactly 

[00:33:47] Leah Levitan: right. We don't do lymphatic drainage when we have a fever or an acute infection that might Get circulated into the bloodstream, after that lymphatic fluid has been cleaned and filtered by the lymph nodes, it goes back into circulation.

[00:34:01] Leah Levitan: So we don't want to stimulate too much drainage if we've got those infections. That's the more rest and restore mode, trying to replenish and heal and feel a little bit better before we do those. But if you feel something coming on or you use it almost in a preventative way.

[00:34:21] Leah Levitan: You can help prevent them from taking hold, and then you can also take that heightened reaction and bring it back down before it does turn into an infection. 

[00:34:33] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. Now, traveling through the lymph system to the other parts of the system, reproductive area, pelvic region, can we start with, The more hot and heavy stuff, which is endometriosis I imagine, I'm under the impression that you get clients, like a fair number of people come to you for endometriosis, and you have some unique things that you do that you've developed with working with this population, so can you talk to us about endometriosis and lymphatic drainage therapy?

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[00:36:18] Leah Levitan: Yeah, so we see a lot of pelvic congestion abdominal congestion, maybe some blockages from some of those tissue layers sticking together. So we do a lot of myofascial release. That's definitely going to be the foundation for working with clients with endometriosis. Our sessions are always like lymphatic focused, but if we're not changing the environment of where these lymphatic vessels are anchored, like how they're structured, which is through our connective tissue, we want to create some space for a fluid to flow more freely.

[00:36:52] Leah Levitan: So we're doing myofascial release and working with the organs and manipulating them. So we might, manipulate the uterus. Release the diaphragm, kind of work on the liver and the colon just to get everything moving and increase circulation, increase relaxation, just get all of that fluid moving because a third of the lymph nodes in the body are in the abdomen.

[00:37:16] Leah Levitan: It's just like very rich. It's very rich lymphatic terrain. And within the pelvis itself, there's a ton of lymph nodes that are surrounding our reproductive organs, and that's to really help maintain their health. and function and prevent infections to clear out excess tissue. And to create that immune surveillance, because that is an entry point to the body.

[00:37:41] Christa Biegler, RD: I think this is probably an underrated conversation, and it just has a lot of ties to things. First, before I go off on that little tangent, I want to ask you about the third of the lymph nodes in the pelvic region. Because I feel like the neck also brags that it has this stat. Is that two thirds of the lymph nodes in the neck and in the pelvis, and the other one third is everywhere?

[00:38:02] Leah Levitan: Huh. 

[00:38:02] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. I think it's almost more surprising that there's so many in the neck, honestly. Actually, why do we think there's so many in the neck? Just because the brain needs to drain? 

[00:38:09] Leah Levitan: Yeah, definitely brain and then also think from an immune perspective because the lymphatic system is such a big part of that just our airway The entry points to the body.

[00:38:20] Leah Levitan: I mean you gotta 

[00:38:20] Leah Levitan: guard the holes, Yeah, 

[00:38:21] Christa Biegler, RD: Let's be really nice to our necks Wow So with the pelvic region I think about that whole like Kind of trunk and

[00:38:29] Christa Biegler, RD: my thoughts are do we have a lot of pelvic congestion? I think there's probably lots of reasons like the first ones that come to mind is sitting But then also I talked about this with clients because you're gonna see I would guess bloating and other things along with this or even You were just talking about stimulating the colon.

[00:38:45] Christa Biegler, RD: I would expect even constipation sometimes with this congestion in general. I would feel like it's all part of the same basket of marbles. Because, and I would ask if stress, if you think that is a big piece of this, because when you're under stress, the blood preferentially is gonna go to the arms and legs so you can run from a tiger.

[00:39:02] Christa Biegler, RD: You're gonna have less blood flow, and so I would have I would think, and maybe I'm thinking wrong because the lymph is a little bit different, but I would think that with that fluid, with that action, not as much action happening in the central, like the trunk, that you would have backup, so to speak, or congestion.

[00:39:19] Christa Biegler, RD: I don't know. Those are just the things that come to mind for me. Why do you think that there's so much congestion in that area? 

[00:39:24] Leah Levitan: Oh, I'm with you in regards to like the movement that may or may not be happening in the pelvis scar tissue from surgery, lots of abdominal surgery, C sections, tummy tucks, deep flap after cancer treatment lots of alterations to the body physically, and so scar tissue can be a physical obstruction, lack of movement too but then yeah, you'd mentioned the nervous system piece, that's so big, right?

[00:39:50] Leah Levitan: Our breathing patterns change. We're not taking those deep diaphragmatic breaths and the pelvic floor, as opposed to being a pelvic floor, it's more of a pelvic bowl and a diaphragm in itself. So those diaphragms are moving together, both the upper and the lower decks. And that's creating that rhythmic pumping that's part of the propulsion of fluid.

[00:40:16] Leah Levitan: I'm thinking about muscle tension. 

[00:40:18] Christa Biegler, RD: I was thinking about how I forgot about my own C section scar. Cause it was like 20 years ago, which is like, how old am I? Anyway you just forget something that's not bugging you. But, I actually wanted to ask you about scar tissue.

[00:40:31] Christa Biegler, RD: Along, 20 years ago, I was getting continuing education about laser therapy, like German laser therapy for scars. And I feel like that didn't fully translate to the United States. Do you ever end up in any continuing education around that? Or just all manual? I love using kinesiology tape to create a little bit more 

[00:40:48] Christa Biegler, RD: space between those, 

[00:40:48] Christa Biegler, RD: Stimulation for scars.

[00:40:49] Leah Levitan: All manual stimulation for me. I guess some. Gua Sha type of training, some soft tissue mobilization. With, using like a scraper. Kinesiology tape. I love using kinesiology tape to create a little bit more space between those. Lasagna layers of tissue to lift them up and 

[00:41:08] Christa Biegler, RD: using some 

[00:41:09] Christa Biegler, RD: cupping too, cause that was the first thing that came to mind when we were talking about creating space in that area.

[00:41:14] Leah Levitan: Yes. Yeah. 

[00:41:15] Christa Biegler, RD: Cupping the abdomen. 

[00:41:17] Leah Levitan: Yes, we can cup the abdomen, the rib cage. And then you can also move them around a little bit. But also the lymphatic drainage itself, making sure that we're getting things moving and we'll do a little bit of like rebounding at the end and we have a vibration plate and a rebounder in our office.

[00:41:35] Leah Levitan: So sometimes we'll. We'll have people hop on that after and we'll get them doing the big six before they're getting on the table. 

[00:41:45] Christa Biegler, RD: Do you ever have people that are struggling with infertility, which I think of infertility is technically defined as I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I feel two failed pregnancies maybe isn't for, anyway, it doesn't, the technicality doesn't matter.

[00:42:00] Christa Biegler, RD: But when I'm asking you, do you have people presenting for that? It it all makes sense because if you're having congestion in the trunk, then hormones are not a sex hormones are not a priority for your body in my opinion, like physiologically. So I'm just thinking about the general reproductive system.

[00:42:15] Christa Biegler, RD: So I'm wondering if people come in for that as well. 

[00:42:19] Leah Levitan: Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. People will come in around egg retrieval to just help recalibrate their body after that, like hormone roller coaster. They'll come in after I'm trying to think there's different areas where they'll come in on their like fertility journey or yes, sometimes if they're just trying to conceive.

[00:42:44] Leah Levitan: They're like we're trying to get everything moving. We want this tissue vital and vibrant and ready to receive. 

[00:42:51] Christa Biegler, RD: It was a great niche. I think like lymphatic drainage for reproductive or like fertility support. I think it's great. We've even had a topic similar to that.

[00:43:00] Christa Biegler, RD: It was essentially abdomen stimulation for fertility. Was the generally the topic back to endometriosis. Is there. Do you have advice, so there's a couple, there's a few questions I want to start to end with around some of these topics, but my first one is, I remember you telling me once that you see a lot of weird stuff, clients report a lot of weird stuff coming out of their body after endometriosis treatment.

[00:43:23] Leah Levitan: Usually it's like poop, so different modalities, not that I do, but internal pelvic floor work a lot of times mucus and things like that will come out. 

[00:43:34] Christa Biegler, RD: That makes sense. 

[00:43:35] Leah Levitan: Clots and all kinds of wild things that 

[00:43:37] Christa Biegler, RD: I think we have all kinds of stuff we can't see in our body because I like have lots of mucus stories.

[00:43:43] Christa Biegler, RD: Some clients like interesting things that happen. Another thing for another day. Mucus sagas. Anyway, yeah. 

[00:43:49] Leah Levitan: Why 

[00:43:50] Leah Levitan: do they always end up on a paper towel 

[00:43:52] Leah Levitan: and then photographed? Then they circulate 

[00:43:56] Leah Levitan: on the internet, but 

[00:43:58] Christa Biegler, RD: I don't know that too much. Okay. So what advice if you were trying to summarize your unique approach for endometriosis, which I think you see a lot of in clinic, and then also empower a listener with how to find a practitioner, like a good quality practitioner to help them with endometriosis, what would you say to them?

[00:44:17] Leah Levitan: I would definitely tell them to look for somebody that does manual lymphatic drainage, so clinical lymphatic drainage, just to ensure that it's gentle and safe for them. And some form of like fascial work. So I do John Barnes myofascial release, but that's just one of many modalities. Rolfing is another good one.

[00:44:38] Leah Levitan: And also there are practitioners that specifically work with just visceral manipulation. So finding a visceral manipulation practitioner can be really helpful because those are people Yes. And so that's a really helpful modality, and I think that combination is going to be great. 

[00:44:58] Christa Biegler, RD: And I think you wanted to tell us something.

[00:45:01] Christa Biegler, RD: Is there anything else that you want women to know that they can do at home around endometriosis for their self care? 

[00:45:08] Leah Levitan: Yeah, definitely start working in the abdomen. I do usually try to encourage my clients to use a red light unit downstairs on their pelvis, on their undercarriage castor oil packs.

[00:45:24] Leah Levitan: That feels like a very tried and true thing and mobilizing the pelvis. There's a lot of fascial attachments at the sacrum. So if you deal with low back pain, sacral pain, that pain is concentrated on the back of the body. It's helpful to use tools like therapy balls, little like round balls where you can get in those nooks and crannies of your hips and the.

[00:45:48] Leah Levitan: Base of the low back between the ribcage and the pelvis. That's a good area and There are softer or squishy balls where you can actually work in your abdomen safely. So I have a little purple ball in the corner over there. It's called a gorgeous ball. They're affordable. They're grippy and That ball is soft enough that you could use it in your abdomen.

[00:46:12] Leah Levitan: So if you're familiar with Or maybe if you're not familiar, the modality block therapy has been really interesting. I've tried some different things where you're activating your diaphragm and using a block to release and open and create some space. I find that soft squishy ball is really great for doing that.

[00:46:33] Leah Levitan: So that way we can work on those areas of density and congestion. So I like to teach women how to pump their ileocecal valve. That little sphincter between the small and large intestine. I like for them to know where that is and so they can work on that. That's a good instructional video. And there's lots of videos on YouTube that can teach you how to do that.

[00:46:57] Christa Biegler, RD: Very fun. So we covered some lovely pearls today on Fibrocystic breasts and breast health in general. And then we talked a little bit about puffy pits and armpits and how that's related. And we traversed down to the reproductive system and largely talked about endometriosis. I think we could probably talk for a lot longer.

[00:47:14] Christa Biegler, RD: There's all these systems but look at us we talked, we didn't talk about the neck, but hey, we covered more than 30 percent of the lymphatic system and that's all you can ask for in one short episode. Leah, where can people find you online? 

[00:47:25] Leah Levitan: You can find me in the club.

[00:47:27] Leah Levitan: So lymph love club. I'm on, I think all of the, almost all of the platforms. 

[00:47:34] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, really? 

[00:47:35] Leah Levitan: Yeah. I feel like I'm on Instagram, TikTok. YouTube. 

[00:47:40] Leah Levitan: Yeah. LinkedIn. That's a busy life. 

[00:47:43] Christa Biegler, RD: That's a busy life, man. Congratulations. And then we'll also be linking in our show notes, your last episode. And I believe I said it was two, I'm looking for it.

[00:47:52] Christa Biegler, RD: It is episode 263 if you want more of Leah, but she's great to follow online. Very entertaining. Can't go wrong following her. Thanks for coming on the show again today. 

[00:48:02] Leah Levitan: Oh, thanks so much for having me.